NCAA Football 2009/2010

[dkst0426]

I am about the furthest one could get from being a Florida Gators fan, but this is class. Definitely worth a read:

You Gotta Love Tim Tebow

He's a Heisman Trophy winner and a two-time national champion, but the Florida quarterback will tell you he does his most important and rewarding work off the football field

I've long known he's a very devout Christian, but this article really solidified my opinion that in the sports world, we could be a lot worse off than having people like Tim Tebow around.

[apb7721]

I am about the furthest one could get from being a Florida Gators fan, but this is class. Definitely worth a read:

You Gotta Love Tim Tebow

He's a Heisman Trophy winner and a two-time national champion, but the Florida quarterback will tell you he does his most important and rewarding work off the football field

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I've long known he's a very devout Christian, but this article really solidified my opinion that in the sports world, we could be a lot worse off than having people like Tim Tebow around.

Agreed.  I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play in the NFL.  He could have a bigger impact doing other things in ministry.



And I'm sadly proud that Syracuse is rated as the worst team in D-I football!! I'll be happy with 4 wins this year.  One year with dkst's boy Greg Paulus at QB for Syracuse - just win us a couple games!

[messiaen77]

As a Kentucky fan, it is hard to admit it, but Tebow is one of the best things to happen to college football in a long time.  With all of the pathetic role models in sports, it is wonderful to have such a talented, high profile guy who spends summers and spring breaks doing service for others, standing up for celebacy, and showing young boys what real men are.  And none of the accolades and constant media praise is going to his head!  If I could just ask one thing of Tebow it would be to lay an egg Sept. 26.  Is that too much to ask?  11-1 could still get you in the National Championship.

[dkst0426]

Agreed.  I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play in the NFL.  He could have a bigger impact doing other things in ministry.

I don't see him as an NFL QB anyway. Spread offense QBs aren't exactly top of NFL GM's wishlists, on top of his lousy mechanics. Maybe as a TE or FB, since he's big and his best quality is his feet.

One year with dkst's boy Greg Paulus at QB for Syracuse - just win us a couple games!

Paulus was never my boy. Never became the leader we needed him to be. Since the Meineke Bowl in Charlotte is an ACC/Big East matchup, I'll crack up if it ends up being a Duke/Syracuse game.

[apb7721]

 Since the Meineke Bowl in Charlotte is an ACC/Big East matchup, I'll crack up if it ends up being a Duke/Syracuse game.

Hell will freeze over before that happens. 

[stealthpanda]

i agree with dkst - tebows definitely a nice guy, and i wish him all the best, but it doesnt seem like he'll be set up to succeed in the nfl

i guess we'll have to see

and michigan state is coming off a surprisingly good year as far as football goes, so hopefully next year will be just as rewarding for their program

[messiaen77]

Anybody else think the Heisman is Colt McCoy's to lose this year?  Tebow won't get the impressive numbers, Bradford is out for a while, so it looks like McCoy will be the one to catch.  Sure, there are others out there who may be more deserving of the honor, but this is a media-driven popularity contest with some stats used to make it seem legit.

[dkst0426]

Thad Lewis, 350 yards; 2 TDs, including a 60-yard bomb; no turnovers vs. the defending I-AA champions. Not bad for Duke, but not good enough for the win. Oh well, Heisman leader! 

[Relient Fan]

Thad Lewis, 350 yards; 2 TDs, including a 60-yard bomb; no turnovers vs. the defending I-AA champions. Not bad for Duke, but not good enough for the win. Oh well, Heisman leader! 

lol.  Only if Duke made it to a decent Bowl game, which isn't happening in my life time, well, basically it's never happening.

[apb7721]

Oh well, Heisman leader! 

In a realistic world, yes.  Sadly, in the corrupt world of college football, wishful thinking!

[dkst0426]

lol.  Only if Duke made it to a decent Bowl game, which isn't happening in my life time, well, basically it's never happening.

As convoluted as the bowl system is nowadays, all we need is 6 wins. Not that I agree with the system, but hey, when you've been as bad as we have, you take what you can get. I couldn't care any less if it was the McDonald's UPS Bellsouth Cheerwine Tupperware Bowl played in some high school stadium in the middle of nowhere. 

[dkst0426]

Did anyone see the end of the Oregon Vs. Boise St. game? LeGarrette Blount from Oregon punched Byron Hout from Boise St. right in the face...check it out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVDCoNnVbr4

Hout shouldn't have instigated it, so he should get at least a benching, if not a suspension. Blount absolutely deserved his season-long suspension. What he did was utterly idiotic and shameful, both in hitting Hout and then going after the fans on his way out. Not only that, but he pretty much brought this upon himself in the first place, since Hout was throwing Blount's own pregame words right back at him.

Props to the Boise State players standing right there for not letting emotions get the better of them. A free-for-all on national tv would have been utterly embarrassing for everyone involved.

[apb7721]

Did anyone see the end of the Oregon Vs. Boise St. game? LeGarrette Blount from Oregon punched Byron Hout from Boise St. right in the face...check it out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVDCoNnVbr4

Hout shouldn't have instigated it, so he should get at least a benching, if not a suspension. Blount absolutely deserved his season-long suspension. What he did was utterly idiotic and shameful, both in hitting Hout and then going after the fans on his way out. Not only that, but he pretty much brought this upon himself in the first place, since Hout was throwing Blount's own pregame words right back at him.

Props to the Boise State players standing right there for not letting emotions get the better of them. A free-for-all on national tv would have been utterly embarrassing for everyone involved.

I completely agree with you. I think Blount will probably have more coming to him and the season suspension was just the beginning measure Oregon is taking, he may even lose his scholarship.

I think there should be a no tolerance policy in college and professional sports for any kind of misconduct. If the punishments were more severe people would be more likely to get a little self control and not do foolish things.

Oregon has said that Blount will retain his scholarship.  I find that appalling and disgusting.  I bet Oregon taxpayers are thrilled that their money is going towards stupidity like this.

[dkst0426]

I think there should be a no tolerance policy in college and professional sports for any kind of misconduct. If the punishments were more severe people would be more likely to get a little self control and not do foolish things.

The NCAA prefers to let schools self-govern their programs. That's why so many times, they wait for schools to complete their own investigations if there are allegations of misconduct or violations. And Goodell is trying his own brand of zero-tolerance.

Oregon has said that Blount will retain his scholarship.  I find that appalling and disgusting.  I bet Oregon taxpayers are thrilled that their money is going towards stupidity like this.

Seconded. I never had a problem with the Oregon program before this, but I just lost a ton of respect for it.

[messiaen77]

I see two justifiable reasons for Oregon to keep this guy on scholarship.  First, if it is a question of the scholarship keeps him in school and getting the degree as opposed to dropping out, then by all means keep him on scholarship.  A lot of college athletes come from bad situations and environments and without a college degree they are statistically more likely to return to those.  Second, I recall hearing that he had been having some personal problems over the past few months and it is possible the coaches saw this was his "rock bottom" moment and want to give him the opportunity at a second chance.  When I heard his postgame apology I saw and heard a guy who realized he had just stepped in it and was afraid for his future.  If it is this one, then it is a great redemption story.  Athletes are human and will make stupid mistakes and bad decisions just like the rest of us.  What matters, in my opinion, is what comes next.  Do they continue to make those bad decisions or do they grow up a little more?  Blount did something stupid and inexcusable, but I am interested in what he does next.

On a side note, I don't know how the athletic department is run at Oregon, but a lot of athletic scholarships come from revenue and endowments rather than school funds.  I know that is how it is here at Kentucky, and in fact the athletic department funnels funds into the university's general scholarship fund.

[dkst0426]

I see two justifiable reasons for Oregon to keep this guy on scholarship.  First, if it is a question of the scholarship keeps him in school and getting the degree as opposed to dropping out, then by all means keep him on scholarship.  A lot of college athletes come from bad situations and environments and without a college degree they are statistically more likely to return to those. Second, I recall hearing that he had been having some personal problems over the past few months and it is possible the coaches saw this was his "rock bottom" moment and want to give him the opportunity at a second chance. 

The fact that he was playing that night was his second chance. He had been suspended during the offseason for skipping practices and team meetings.

And to the first point, I'd simply ask if you really think that players like Blount in glamor positions on big programs really would have that much trouble staying in school, let alone one who was considered a good NFL draft prospect.

[messiaen77]

Look, I'm not trying to justify Oregon's decision.  I'm just saying these are the only two motives that I think are defendable positions for Oregon.  None of us know what is going on those locker rooms and offices and maybe this is a case where the rules are different for the star players.

And absolutely I think there are players in glamor positions on big programs that could not afford to stay in school if they had to pay for it out of pocket.  And I know for a fact there are those kinds of players who can't get academic scholarships.  Another issue with keeping a player on scholarship is that they are still bound by the terms of the scholarship.

Again, I'm not trying to justify what may very well be a stupid decision, just provide a different perspective.

I would like to know what the BSU player said to him.

[dkst0426]

What a day for Leon Wright! 2 INT returns for touchdowns on back-to-back plays? Unreal.

[messiaen77]

Impressive.  Congrats on the win.

[messiaen77]

Some great finishes yesterday.  How about a round of applause for those big league teams with the guts to schedule real games in the first two weeks.  I know the argument:  no pre-season, need games to work out kinks, blah, blah, blah.  When you squeek past your first two opponents by a combined score of 108-9, you are not working out kinks Florida, you are padding your schedule.  "Well, but our conference schedule is so tough . . ."  I'll give you that you have to play in Baton Rouge at night, but you get Georgia and Tennessee at home (plus all the lovely bb material from Tenn to ensure that one is a rout).  South Carolina always collapses at the end of the season when you play them.  And you'll surely be tested by Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Miss. St.  Of course you do have Florida State the last game which could be a potential hitch, but a loss the last game of the season will knock you out of the title game more surely than one at the beginning.  I don't think a BCS team that schedules FCS teams should get a shot at the national title.  You are a big boy school, at least play teams with the same number of scholarship players.

[dkst0426]

Dear Jim Tressel,

Thank you for electing to go a bit more conservative with your gameplan at the end of the game last night, even though your defensive scheme throughout the game up to that point had almost totally smothered our offense.

Signed,

Trojan Nation.