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« on: December 31, 2008, 01:26:59 AM »

didn't see a thread about tennis, so I made this one,
so what so you think of the next Australian Open?
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 07:55:11 AM »

it's gonna be interesting who will win in.
I think there are enough players that can win it, so it should be interesting to watch te big games. that's by the women and the man
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2008, 01:40:09 PM »

it's gonna be interesting who will win in.
I think there are enough players that can win it, so it should be interesting to watch te big games. that's by the women and the man

yeah, my player is Federer, I would like to watch him win the cup Cheesy, but there are many that can win the tournament, I would like to watch Djokovic vs Federer.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2009, 04:12:51 PM »

yes that would be an very interesting match.
let's hope it's the final Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2009, 07:59:58 PM »

Used to love watching tennis. Was a big fan of Boris Becker, and always enjoyed watching Becker, Edberg, Wilander, Connors, Lendl, and McEnroe do their thing. Then there was the Agassi revival in the late 90s when he underwent his image makeover.

Now, it's all about who has the best equipment and can thus pound the ball harder, especially on first serve. Boring.

And the women's game? Don't even get me started. I find it utterly ridiculous that a top-ranked player can just call it a day and retire, citing "lack of motivation." That tells me there's no heart and passion, and when it's coming from the #1 player, it speaks volumes about the rest.

I have to say that last year's Wimbledon was an absolute classic, though.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 12:11:37 AM »

yes, that can be

but, isn't every sport chanching with the newer and beter and expenciver equipment?
it isn't always a bad change, look at the 60's football matches.
that was boring. so football is better now.

change isn't always bad, that's my point.
but if you like the old tennis very much, then the new tennis could be boring.
(i don't now, cause i'm to young and i dont now all the players you mentiond.

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 03:09:23 AM »

Used to love watching tennis. Was a big fan of Boris Becker, and always enjoyed watching Becker, Edberg, Wilander, Connors, Lendl, and McEnroe do their thing. Then there was the Agassi revival in the late 90s when he underwent his image makeover.

Now, it's all about who has the best equipment and can thus pound the ball harder, especially on first serve. Boring.

And the women's game? Don't even get me started. I find it utterly ridiculous that a top-ranked player can just call it a day and retire, citing "lack of motivation." That tells me there's no heart and passion, and when it's coming from the #1 player, it speaks volumes about the rest.

I have to say that last year's Wimbledon was an absolute classic, though.

that was goods times, but now I think that is good as before, maybe the first serve can be more used now, but that doesn't make it bored, nor for me thought, and yeah the final of wimbledon in last year waws a classic
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 05:39:54 AM »

but, isn't every sport chanching with the newer and beter and expenciver equipment?

Sport evolves over time. That's a given. But when the performance becomes dependent on the equipment, then it's not really so much about the skill, is it? I will gladly take it all back if Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, etc. picked up wood rackets and played on the various surfaces like the older players did.

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it isn't always a bad change, look at the 60's football matches.
that was boring. so football is better now.

Which football you talking about? American football or football? If you mean football, then you cannot be serious in saying it was boring in the 60s - that older era was the days of legends of the game like Puskas, Di Stefano, Kopa, Eusebio, Best, Charlton, Greaves, Pele, Garrincha, Yashin, etc. etc. Football may be faster and some different skills evident today, but look at all the diving and pampering of superstars and players worried more about money than loyalty. Better? Hardly.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2009, 05:22:16 PM »

You are right when it comes to diving pampering and the money.
but I the football in this era is, for me, more exciting then in the 60s.
yes, in the 60s you had legends like di stefano and eusebio.
that players were really good, but the rest did not do very much in the field.
now there are more players at the same level, who can also do things that normal people could not do.
yes there are a few players that are really good, but overall the players can do more with a ball.
and then i take the diving and pampering within it.

but let's talk about tennis,  14 days for the australian open.
i'm looking forward to it


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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 03:26:40 AM »

You are right when it comes to diving pampering and the money.
but I the football in this era is, for me, more exciting then in the 60s.
yes, in the 60s you had legends like di stefano and eusebio.
that players were really good, but the rest did not do very much in the field.
now there are more players at the same level, who can also do things that normal people could not do.
yes there are a few players that are really good, but overall the players can do more with a ball.
and then i take the diving and pampering within it.

but let's talk about tennis,  14 days for the australian open.
i'm looking forward to it


Ps. sorry for my poor english

Australian Open is my favorite of the circuit
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 08:44:29 AM »

djokovic lost his first match of 2009 !!
I really want to now how he's gonna be at the australian open.


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why the australian open?
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 03:37:49 PM »

I love the US Open because of how rowdy the atmosphere can get. I'll never forget Jimmy Connors' magical run in 1991. That was simply the stuff of legend.

However, for pure tennis alone, give me the French Open. The clay forces players to really depend on solid fundamentals to excel.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2009, 05:53:30 AM »

I love the US Open because of how rowdy the atmosphere can get. I'll never forget Jimmy Connors' magical run in 1991. That was simply the stuff of legend.

However, for pure tennis alone, give me the French Open. The clay forces players to really depend on solid fundamentals to excel.
what you say about the clay is true, but not always, because it gives more advange to defender players.

and Australian open is my favourite cause is the first of the year, many players play their first match after months, and is when I'm on vacations, besides, the atmosphere is different of others tournaments, I mean The summer, the 38° C, etc.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2009, 06:13:48 AM »

what you say about the clay is true, but not always, because it gives more advange to defender players.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Counterpunching tennis is some of the best tennis out there. Anyone old enough to remember will never forget Michael Chang in '89. What an amazing run that was. Equal parts skill, equal parts improvisation, equal parts guts. Tennis doesn't get much better than that, and you don't see that on grass or hardcourt.
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2009, 06:30:11 AM »

Michael Shang was good on every court, but there are players that cooldn'y play on grass and they were good on clay, like Marcelo Rios
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2009, 07:50:09 AM »

Michael Shang was good on every court, but there are players that cooldn'y play on grass and they were good on clay, like Marcelo Rios

Chang.

And grass has become nothing more than a surface that rewards guys who can hit hard.
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2009, 08:43:13 AM »

but there are also people that like the grass, because it's fast tennis
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2009, 07:06:13 AM »

Michael Shang was good on every court, but there are players that cooldn'y play on grass and they were good on clay, like Marcelo Rios

Chang.

And grass has become nothing more than a surface that rewards guys who can hit hard.

oh yeah, is Chang xD, mi fault xD
I don't like grass, the most I like is hard, but not too much, like in Australia Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2009, 08:40:03 AM »

and the US Open?
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2009, 09:31:07 AM »

Us Open is faster than Australia
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2009, 12:16:38 AM »

but there are also people that like the grass, because it's fast tennis

Fast tennis doesn't always necessarily equal good tennis. More often, it equals "let me hit it hard enough so you can't get to it, no need for rallying" tennis.
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2009, 11:04:33 AM »

but there are players that just don't like playing rallys. the want to hit the ball hard so the other player can't get to it. if there was not something like fast tennis, the same players would win every tounament. now you have to be more allround.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2009, 09:33:28 PM »

Stepanek deaf Verdasco D:
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2009, 08:16:24 PM »

Fernando Gonzales defeat Iva Ljubicic

how do you think that he's going on that tournament??Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2009, 06:14:41 PM »

Gonzales,
 I dont know, i hope good, cause he can play tennis
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